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Hello all. I was wondering if anyone has tried this lacquer?:Mohawk lacquer

We have a distribution store in Ottawa so I'm thinking I won't have to jump through hoops or pay special Haz-Mat fees to have it delivered.

They also have this :
Mohawk Nu-Coat Urethane

Any thoughts or comments?

I'm also wondering who delivers Catalyzed Polyurethane to Canada?

Thanks in advance.

Al

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Chemcraft has 2K polyurethane

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Bob Garrish
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    I like Mohawk products. They also have Macfaddens. I am a big fan of lacquer. It is still the best finish for instrumnets next to French Polish

Mohawk is Behlens.

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thanks I knew it was one of them
john

Urethane nitrocellulose Lacquer??? Sounds like an oxymoron to me

Alain...I seem to remember someone touting the Mohawk Nitro as a good product. It may have been Sylvan or Mario or both. Recently, however, Mario posted that he's gone back to McFadden's Nitro. That one seems to be the luthier's standard.

Personally, I'd stay away from the urethane/nitro until I were to see data of the results on instruments.

Have you soured on FP?

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JJ
Napa, CA
http://www.DonohueGuitars.com

Thanks for you help guys!

Bob, great line on the Chemcraft supplies! Right in my back yard and I didn't even know about them (ain't this forum great!?)

Yes, Behlens, Star and Mohawk... all part of the RPM Wood finishes group... good stuff then...

Michael, I know! I found a link somewhere and they touted it as a nitro hybrid.

Here's what they had to say:

"Nu-coat lacquer- clear - a special blend of urethane and nitrocellulose resins that produce a finish with the toughness of urethane and application and drying characteristics of nitrocellulose.

1.   Characteristics:
A) extra tough finish
B) excellent resistance to moisture and solvents
C) superior mar and abrasion resistance
D) fast drying
E) excellent adhesion to most other finishes
F) self sealing
G) very good rubbing and buffing properties
H) available in gloss, satin and flat sheens

2. Where used:
A) apply over properly prepared conventional finishes to increase durability
     and resistance properties.
B) apply to difficult to adhere to surfaces such as catalyzed and other
      urethane finishes for touch-up and repair
C) use as a super tough finish on small projects.
D) use as a protective coat for high pressure laminate repairs.

I don't know. I think I might be interested in trying it out just for fun...

JJ, I haven't soured on FP, it's just that after seeing all those nice guitars at Erie, finished in nitro and polyurethane, I just would like to have a durable finish on my guitars... FP is all fine and dandy, but it's not too tough and scratches very easily. Since I've started using a thumb pick, you should see the top of my no.1!

I have a paint booth in the works so I figure I might as well use it...

I'm going to try Chemcraft's Polyurethane. You can check it out
here.

Thanks guys, keep your ideas coming...

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Alain, I've used the mowhawk classic instrument lacquer.

I love it, if flows out nice, sets up well and rubs out great. What more can I say.

The last guitar I did was with it, and although it was a satin finish, you be the judge..............(don't you hear the "on hold" music?)

(pictures to come later tonight)

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[QUOTE=Rod True] Alain, I've used the mowhawk classic instrument lacquer.

I love it, if flows out nice, sets up well and rubs out great. What more can I say.

The last guitar I did was with it, and although it was a satin finish, you be the judge..............(don't you hear the "on hold" music?)

(pictures to come later tonight)[/QUOTE]

Right on Rod! Looking forward to those pics, bro!

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I use the Mohawk classic instrument lac as well .. good stuff.

Rod .. how did you satin it ??? just steel wool, or did you actually find a satin version (didnt know there was one)

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Ya Tony, steel wool and paste wax. Maybe it's more of a semi-gloss now that I look at the pics again.

Here are some pics Alain

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Wow, Rod...that's beautiful!

Alain...One of the characteristics of lacquer for instruments is that it have the correct plasticizers to withstand the periodic expansion and contraction. I know for a fact that the McFadden's product is formulated as such. If I were you, I'd check with the manufacturer before using something new. We wouldn't want to see cracking and crazing after the first year.

Good luck!

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Napa, CA
http://www.DonohueGuitars.com

Ah Rod... I never tire of seeing that gorgeous guitar man!!! I love the way the neck lamination crosses over to the back strip... or is that the other way around? ... I really like the cutaway joint too! Well done sir!

So there's nothing wrong with that Mohawk instrumet lacquer then...

JJ, that's a very good point you make. I hadn't really thought about that. I'll make sure to contact Chemcraft and ask them questions about their polyurethane first.

I think I'm leaning towards the Mohawk Lacquer. I can go pick up a can this morning. In fact, that's exactly what I'll do, me thinks

Yeah!!!! LRS (Luthier Related Shopping!!!)

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Yeah, that truly is a gorgeous one Rod! i just can't wait for Alain to finish his paint booth so i can experiment on future instruments and get a look like that on my guitars!

Alain -- I am just taking a break from the final wet sanding of Mohawk Classic Instrument Lacquer that Tony sprayed for me. It's a pretty tough finish and sands easily. Even the drop fills level nicely.

BTW: Listening to the "Tragically Hip" is a must when level sanding Mohawk